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I just ordered the book, so I haven’t read it yet. About six months ago, my doc began a strong push for me to have bariatric surgery to manage my diabetes. I am fat, yes, but the real driver was diabetes.
So I have the bariatric consult and was rapidly engulfed in prepping for surgery. EVeryone in the bariatric surgery system takes surgery for granted. But one thing ’saved’ me. My surgeon said I had to lose 26 pounds.
This program puts everyone on the same diet: tightly restricted carbs — post-surgery if you eat sugar, you get really sick so you have to be able to stop doing sugar and processed flour. The pre-surgery diet is very similar to the post surgery diet and with the surgery you literally have to eat that way the rest of your life cause the surgery permanently alters your disgestive track.
Bariatric surgery causes your body to PERMANENTLY fail to absorb nutrients properly so you have to take lots of nutrition supplements and eat tons of protein and with the stomach the size of a walnut, you have to sip water all day every day sip sip sip, no end, to get enough water.
I have already stopped drinking anything but water: everything else has carbs I don’t want to deal with. And I love drinking water but after surgery, geez, even that pleasure would be gone, I could not drink four ounces of water, only sip sip sip. I worried about not being able to drink water, not being able to enjoy food.
The pre-surgery diet, the ideal one — some folks just can’t manage it — is two protein shakes a day, and one meal of 3 ounces lean protein and low carb vegies. At first on this diet I was starving all the time and the nutritionist suggesting increasing my carbs a little — so I added some frozen fruit to the protein shakes.
My longwinded point: in three months, eating the way I would have to eat the rest of my life if I had the surgery, I had lost 45 pounds.
So I start thinking, gee, if I can lost 45 pounds eating this way and if I have to eat this way post-surgery, why permanently alter how my body absorbs nutrition .. .forever? Do I trust the medico-pharmacological industry more than creation? What is creation created a pretty good body for humans? I don’t trust the medico-pharma industry. I do trust creation.
And it kept drumming in my head: I have to eat carefully for the rest of my life with or without permanently altering my body.
So I decided not to have the surgery and I continue to lose weight. I am losing pretty rapidly. I have no illusions. I’ve lost lots of weight before and regained some — I am now 130 pounds below my all time high — yeah, I got very morbidly obese but I have kept about 100 pounds off now for several years and I have about 70 to go to be healthy according to height-weight charts. And I know it will be hard to keep the weight down . . . I have read of studies about how my body’s hormones change with big weight loss and the hormonal changes sorta pressure me to gain.
But I have to eat healthfully for the rest of my life to be healthy, with or without surgery.
Anxious? Yes I am. Unsure? Yes I am.
It is very hard to find doctors or nurse practitioners or, esp., nutritionists that actually understand the nutritional needs of diabetes. My doc’s clinic has a diabetes educator. She mouths formulaic tripe from the American Diabetes Association (ADA) — if I ate the way she told me to eat, my sugars would skyrocket. First time I saw the ADA diet, the day I was first diagnosed eight years ago, I said ”If I ate this way, it would be bad for me” — and this is the official good diet offered by the ADA who, I am sure, gets lots of funding from drug companies who sell insulin, glucose test strips, insulin needles (how is it they manage to keep exclusive patents on something as simple as a needle?!!!) . . .
I am eating well, only real food. I do a green raw smoothie daily, I eat high quality protein, count my carbs carefully . . . . and the weight is falling off . .
so what is on my mind? ketoacidosis. I just had a very frightening episode: walking home from my farmers market, a 3 block walk, loaded with kale, spinach, blueberries, eggs, fenugreek, cilantro, garlic . . . all the goodies I need to eat well . . . but carrying, in two bags, maybe 10 pounds, I became too weak to stand up, woozy, my vision blurred. I could not walk. I stopped to rest and when I stood up I couldn’t make my arms and legs work.
An ambulance came, I declined to go to the hospital — for gross reasons. First I had some frozen food (frozen salmon and turkey burgers from Trader Joe’s where I had gone before the market — walked a total of 8 blocks before I got weak) and I had vomited. When a diabetic vomits for no reason, it is serious and often folks are urged to go to ER. I had done a ketone strip that morning and knew I had trace ketosis, and I had a mildly elevated glucose fast reading — 158. I put half a banana in my morning protein shake but I did not do any insulin. I take Lantus, a long-acting insulin and I rarely need the other fast-acting kind. I see, in hindsight, I should have givenmyself some insulin when I saw the trace ketosis . .. but I didn’t. I thought I’d get to the market — I was out of greens and lean protein (other than protein powder) and I figured I’d run my few block errand then pay attention to my insuliln when I got home.
When I vomited on the street the second time, I moved my bowels. And that’s mainly why I didn’t go to the hospital. I wanted to get home and clean myself. And I knew what to do: closely monitor my sugar, inject insulin as needed, rest, eat well. I was so weak that it took me a couple hours to clean up, put away my food.
I’m scared. I don’t know how to get professional help. I am sure there are some very good diabetes educators, esp. ones in private practice that consult. But I am poor. I can’t pay for anything that my health clinic, covered by my insurance, has and the diabetes educator, although a sweet young woman, is useless.
There is a nurse practitioner, who happens to be male, who is also supposed to be an expert on regulating insulin and diet so I met with him. After he talked to me about a minute, he radically changed my insulin dosing, asked nothing about my diet and that was it: changing my insulin dosing solved my problems.
No health care professional I have access to has any interest or expertise in helping me lose weight — have surgery is my doc’s advice.
Ketosis in a diabetic is dangerous. Eating high protein low carb is tricky for a diabetic. I feel all alone. And see no way to get support.
And this forum looks nice enough but let’s face it, it is really to sell books and classes. I need support from other diabetics who are making serious effort to eliminate their diabetes through diet and exercise — I am doing all the right things. I eat so carefully and I am so proud and I have learned so much. Whoda thunk I would do a raw green smoothie daily?!! I can tell you the carb, fat and cal count of anything and I eat with rigid, careful attention. And I exercise — swim a mile daily and walk a lot daily.
I am going to get to my weight goals. And sooner or later my insulin needs will go down. I need help figuring out how to reduce my insulin dependency without triggering episodes like I had the other day that ended with me in an ambulance. I feel despair and all alone. No friends have diabetes.
Hello and welcome,
i would like to say that the point of this forum is Not to sell books and classes. They are offered but not pushed. Most people in this forum already have a book or two by Dr Hyman and are looking for moral or community support.
That is the point of this forum, so people like yourself can be heard and be encouraged.
Your story is very compelling. There are many people posting here that will listen to you and be helpful.
You did a brave thing by turning your back on surgery.
Continue to read posts on this site to understand how empowering and effective this plan can be.
Download the vegetable lists and nutritional information (under my downloads) on this site, it is free.
Take your personal power back by learning and by eating so that your body can heal.
the real struggle toward better health is in our minds. As you change your believes things will change for the better. You already took the first step by deciding to follow a healthy diet plan that you have devised for yourself.
Please understand that you are an individual and your needs may be different from others. Part of this plan is to learn what works for you.
Understand that you are not poor. You are better off than many people if you have access to any health treatment and if you shop at Taader Joe’s. Thank God for what you have and move forward.
Read the Blood Sugar Solution book. Go online and buy a used copy if need be. Or borrow a copy. The cost of a book is within your capability if you can buy fish. Truly poor people are stuck eating fast food because it is so inexpensive..
Many blessings, Margaret
Hi. I read your post with fascination. Although my diabetes is manageagle with diet and exercise, I too have had to take things into my own hands in regards to my health. In my case it was treatment for breast cancer, so I understand what you are up against. I just joined this group myself and have already found the response extremely encouraging. There are answers out there and tons of support. Your decision to not have surgery is AWSOME! Please read the book. It is a real eye opener.
In reading your post I saw that you are a very strong and driven person who has done wonderful things, like losing all that weight on your own, and researching and carefully considering the pros and cons of surgery. You are so much stronger than you realize, but it appears that you have reached the point where you need what we have all found here on this incredible website, meaningful, encouraging and caring support. This isn’t a scam. Dr. Hyman’s book offers a life-changing way to eat and live and it works and he could be selling his philosophy for loads more money than the few dollars it costs for his book. This websitte alone offers us tons of valuable information.
Get the book, read and take the tests, follow the recommened eating plan, and check in here as often as you like. It will not take long for you to realize you are not alone, you have more valuable tools at your disposal in the Blood Sugar Solution, and take a deep breath, relax, and get ready to see your health change for the better. You have come to the right place.
I’m a member of this community and have never felt pressure to purchase any supplements or other complementary programs. As Margaret points out, they are offered but it is always your choice as to whether or not you purchase them. All you really need is a copy of the book, which you can buy for less than $20. You can also check your local public library to see if it is available on loan. My public library system has about 35 copies available. It’s also highly recommend that you take some supplements. At the minimum, Dr. Hyman recommends you take a high quality multi-vitamin, omega 3 fish oil and vitamin D3. Other supplements, depending on your quiz results and personal needs can be beneficial; however, they are not required. You can purchase most supplements from Amazon, Vita-cost or other online companies at a significantly reduced cost. I’ve been on the BSS Advanced Plan for 246 days and find it very doable. Not only have I lost weight, but I now have normal blood glucose and blood pressure. My cholesterol levels are close to normal and my inflammation level is moving downward. Although I buy more expensive health foods (organic), which is my choice, I save money by not buying fast foods, as well as junk or processed foods. Actually, my grocery bill has gone down. So, it doesn’t have to cost a lot to be on this plan. You mainly have to eliminate certain foods from your diet, eat healthy, drink lots of fluids and exercise. The payoff will be monumental. You will lose weight, reverse your medical conditions and feel fabulous. This plan is life-altering. It’s the only one that has worked for me long-term in over 30 years. I recommend that you obtain a copy of the book and try it out. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
I appreciated your comments Susan and am glad you have found some less expensive sources for some of the supplements because I haven’t been able to take them all by any means. Sounds like you are having great success with the program. I can’t say our grocery bill has gone down but when you really stop buying what you are not supposed to be eating it’s a good tradeoff for the additional healthy foods you need to have. I have yet to have the next rounds of lab work to see if my inflammation levels are improving. It’s encouraging to me to hear your level is moving downward. I also think it’s incredible that you’ve been on the Advanced Plan for 246 days.
I think you’ve come to the right place. That’s really hard that you are having to work with health care providers who aren’t on the same page with you, to say the least, but by reading the book you’ll get lots of help for how to move in the right direction. If you make your mind up that you’re going to improve your health I know you’ll transform your life–it’s really very possible, and results come quicker than you would think. The approach I finally took was to tell my endocrinologist that I was going to start this program and I asked for his assistance to adjust the insulin. He gave some simple suggestions and it worked–I went off insulin within several weeks. You could see if you could get some coaching on the meds that way. I saw a whole new possibility for a low carb way of eating when my diabetic educator once admitted that if I had a salad for lunch (with no carbs to speak of) that I could omit the insulin. (why was I never told that until I was on insulin for a year or two?) Until that 1 conversation I thought I was required to have carbs with every meal and doomed to inject insulin multiple times a day. I feel so betrayed by the American Diabetes Association and the diets advocated by them. Anyway knowledge is power and you’re on the right path.