How Big Food Is Keeping Us And Our Children Sick

Episode 689 1h 26m


We live in a world that claims to be based on science, goodwill, and policies intended to help people. But in reality, these things are often heavily influenced and manipulated by industry, particularly Big Food, Big Pharma, and Big Ag, which have corrupted many institutions, politicians, professional associations, research institutions, and medical schools. And it has, unfortunately, led to mass confusion and illness in the public.

Today on The Doctor’s Farmacy, I sit down with Calley Means to talk about how Big Food and Big Pharma are rigging the system and profiting off of our ill health. We kick off this episode by talking about Cally’s early career when he consulted for Coke, and his recent viral Tweet, about Coca-Cola’s tactics to ensure taxes on sugar-sweetened beverages failed and soda was permitted in government-funded nutrition programs.

Our diet is the number one cause of death, disability, and suffering in the world. We are getting sick from cheap, addictive food. Meanwhile, Big Food maintains its own interests by paying off institutions of trust (civil rights groups, dietary groups, think tanks, and research institutions). Healthcare is now the largest and fastest-growing industry in the United States, and that is primarily because of food.

We discuss how the healthcare system has been complicit and actually profits off these practices. There is currently a lot of buzz about a peptide called Ozempic that can be used to treat Type II diabetes and is being sought after for weight loss. Despite how it is being touted, it is not a quick fix. I​​t would also be cheaper to buy every obese child organic food than to subsidize Ozempic! Calley and I discuss how the playbook being used by Ozempic is the same playbook Calley saw used early in his career.

Lastly, we talk about what is needed from a legal and policy perspective to combat this rigged system and why is this truly is a bi-partisan issue. The policies and industry interests that drive our current system must change to fix our broken food system from field to fork and beyond. If we were to identify one big lever to pull to improve global health, create economic abundance, reduce social injustice and mental illness, restore environmental health, and reverse climate change, it would be transforming our entire food system. That is the most important work of our time—work that must begin now.


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Topics Covered

  • How big industry drives corruption


  • Calley’s early career experience and how he came to understand the system is rigged


  • How Big Food rigs systems of trust


  • The weaponization of nutrition research


  • Outside funding of medical associations


  • Our healthcare system incentivizes sickness


  • The recent news about Ozempic, which is being touted as a miracle obesity drug, perfectly encapsulates the rigged system


  • Is obesity genetic?


  • How we can fix the system


  • Food as medicine


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Coming up on this episode of the Doctor's Farmacy.

Calley Means:
We are unequivocally becoming sicker, fatter, more depressed, more infertile based on our food. And we would expect the healthcare and our medical systems to be ringing the alarm bell on that. But they're silent because they're profiting.

Dr. Mark Hyman:
Welcome to the Doctor's Farmacy. I'm Dr. Mark Hyman. That's Farmacy with an F, a place for conversations that matter. And this conversation today matters a lot because it's about your health. It's about how we know what we know about nutrition, about the way in which we're influenced by big food, big pharma, big Ag, and how they're corrupted in ways that are manipulating our population and causing us all..

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Ep. 689 - How Big Food Is Keeping Us And Our Children Sick